why should religion not be taught in schools

And by the way, public schools aren’t government. I noticed nothing in that whole comment posted that alters anything I believe about whether or not religion should be taught. By not offering an argument or evidence exposes you as holding your view for flacid and unintellectual reasons. orders you to follow the governments rules/laws because your god put it into place. If you research anabaptists, you would know that anabaptists are on a spectrum. It would be more pardonable to believe in no God at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin. YOU, Dan, would be a horrible choice, not “anabaptists” in general, because I would not judge any other anabaptist based on YOUR description of who they are and what they believe. Is it a particular obsession of yours? All governments have been placed in power by God. Doug, thats why I dont think I’d want schools delving into each religion either. I would prefer it is kept in the school curriculum. Jefferson did not shrink from questioning the existence of God. They are a fun way of learning life lessons, values and morals in a positive and influential way because they are so fun, relaxed and in a caring atmosphere. Do you recognize that this would not be rational or fair for every other flavor of belief and non-belief? Allah is just the Arabic word for God. Your goal should not be to show them Christ. Observing inter-denominational intolerance in the United States, he extended his skepticism to Protestant clergy. Why? If you reached that conclusion by way of reason with a rationale then that means you have considered arguments and evidences for your assertion that “God exists” is false. If you don’t understand the connection between the faith of our founders and the creation of the nation, then you would benefit by such religion classes. And once again, Sparky, I didn’t advocate anything so specific at all. Why did your team lose, and continue to lose? [53] In this brief work Jefferson affirms Jesus’ “moral doctrines, relating to kindred & friends, were more pure & perfect than those of the most correct of the philosophers, and greatly more so than those of the Jews”, but asserts that “fragments only of what he did deliver have come to us mutilated, misstated, & often unintelligible”, and that “the question of his being a member of the Godhead, or in direct communication with it, claimed for him by some of his followers, and denied by others is foreign to the present view, which is merely an estimate of the intrinsic merit of his doctrines”. ” In my view religion doesn't belong in the school system. I see, Richie. This became one of the American charters of freedom. Religion shouldn't have a place in public schools. Nothing in Romans 13 denies the citizen the right and/or duty to lobby for change. The Southern Baptists (the conservative ones)? Don’t you guys think it would be more efficient reading the comments over until you actually know what was said? But how and why did a minority of non christians or lazy christians in a “christian” nation built on christian principles pull the carpet out from underneath manifest destiny? ii., p. 217)[35] ” There is a definitive answer to the question of whether or not God exists, even if determining that answer is beyond our ability. I would guess that it’s generally possible to prove most negatives. They have made the happy discovery, that the way to silence religious disputes, is to take no notice of them. At least you finally asked a clarifying question, regardless of how inane. Yet, it, like so many major universities, have courses on the subject of world religions. It’s time you got your head out of your ass. Your words indicate someone who is ill-informed about history and the role in our history of people from ALL faith traditions and non-faith traditions and, generally, people who disagree with your particular opinions about what God wants. One more thing regarding objections to the notion. It was an accusation commonly levelled at Deists, although they believe in a deity. This discussion is not about evidence for or against the existence of God. Indeed, I insist that absolutely no one need believe in God at all to greatly benefit by living according to the teachings of Scripture. [59] ” Religious liberty demands that we don’t promote and isolate one religion over the others at a gov’t level. During the Middle-Ages, most education was oversighted or run by the Church across Europe. On what basis would we establish one particular faith tradition as the state sanctioned one? Such training does not require that anyone attend services every Sunday. I said, quite specifically, that I don’t want YOU, DAN TRABUE FROM KENTUCKY to teach any kid anything because of YOU, DAN TRABUE FROM KENTUCKY have proven yourself to lack understanding and the ability to reason. The team I’m on has no simpleton default name calling position. I refer once again to the state of your panties. Marshall, I’d say that is an awfully shallow and ridiculously unfair caricature of non-theists. It never happened.This is mainly due to outdated laws that enforce a daily ‘collective act of worship’. Public schools may not teach religion, although teaching about religion in a secular context is permitted. But, if only ONE party were advocated at schools and the gov’t said, “to teach the GOP or Libertarian or any other non-Democratic party makes no sense in a country founded by those who value democracy…,” we would all rightfully object. What are the evidences and arguments that point to your assertion tjat the proposition is false? Any time I put faith/religion and public schools in the same post here at Teach 4 the Heart, I get a variety of comments like these ones by Abe & Kayley. Here’s a bit more about how the founders felt about religious expression in public life, and since it’s on topic, here a really good piece about Jefferson’s creation of a university. And the list of “others” seems endless. Religion should be taught in school, as this is the only way to return to society the forgotten moral standards and true values. Romans 13:? But if you are doing something wrong, of course you should be afraid, for you will be punished. I don’t feel any need to worry about how God does His business. There were about 100 comments for and against religious education in schools. Change ). John, I have no problem philosophically with the idea of eight year olds or 17 year olds talking about the question, “Does God exist?” any more than I have a problem in theory with 8 or 17 year old’s discussing, “What is the Right answer to abortion or marriage for gay folk?” In theory. We have all seen headlines of angry parents storming school board meetings protesting that their little Johnny was being illegally “exposed” to this or that religious belief and demanding separation of church and state. My lot in life is nowhere near pathetic. Try again…. My reading of John’s post clearly indicated he wasn’t calling for a specific religion to be taught, but only that the existence of God, or any god, is a worthy topic for any public school who claims to seek, discover and impart the truth. “You yourself even admit that determining the “God exists” question is beyond our ability to answer.”. Pot, meet kettle! But I haven’t made such a call. Schools do not only aim to teach children basic things, but also help them become good adults. Unfortunately, it’s not easy to have a discussion about a deity without delving into any specific religious beliefs. John, Okay, maybe you can prove some negatives. You have both Aristotle and Socrates rolling in their graves. The Quaker English teacher? The summary of the position of christianity not being taught in public seems to be: Whah, whah, atheists……. Until then, answer the question of the post’s title. Allah is the God of Abraham, Moses, Daniel, John the Baptist and Jesus. You can prove a negative. Jefferson’s perspective? “How can you claim you know that Dan’s positions will take him to hell but not Jefferson?”. There is no ONE anabaptist tradition. Therefore, a well-educated person should know something about at least the basic concepts and beliefs of the world’s religions and the … The data, how it was achieved, what has been discovered–these are the backbone of science. In an 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, he wrote: “ Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”, thus building a wall of separation between church and State. In short, your link was redundant. The United States is currently in the unenviable position of being near the bottom of the list of industrialized nations when it comes to teaching evolution in our public schools. It is also appropriate for school officials to instill in students such values as "independent … ” I would expect discussions to touch on such things, but not as a standard focus of the curriculum. Continuing to attempt to distill this unpersuasive argument of yours down to my level of bravery is quite entertaining. The being described in his five points is … a demon of malignant spirit. Would I balk at a teaching of true Christianity of they type you refuse to follow? It allowed for the fact that this was already done through the individual states’ constitutions and laws. First you appeared to ONLY want those who agreed with your faith tradition (my faith tradition and those who believe as I do would not be hired by you, according to your earlier comments). One way is demonstrating that the thing posited is impossible to exist. Just because you used to be something other than a christian, is in no way proof of a god. No, we should not do that for the reasons stated, for reasons of religious liberty. The pursuit of truth is a worthy endeavor for any school. Most of the books were copied by monks and theology was a key subject of study. Once this agreement is reached we’ll move on to establishing the following proposition: Only if taught to respect all cultures and beliefs. I’m old enough that I remember having a teacher in about 1970 in Kentucky who still led the class in a very Christian prayer every day. Go ahead and prove that unicorns don’t exist. Would it not trouble you to have a state-sanctioned religion? You can’t even sort out the doctrinal matters of your “proofs and evidence” amongst the few christians on this blog. [36] ” Why isn’t christianity, right now, taught as part of public education? There is a difference between preaching religion and teaching about religion. Will you force teachers to teach something they don’t believe? As for your continuing cracks against so-called accountability to your deity, are you afraid of an eternity in hell for your behavior? In 2000, Michael Newdow filed suit challenging the phrase on behalf of his daughter, a public school student in California. “You say unequivocally that you know the “truth”…”. In a letter to William Short in 1820, he expressed that his intent was to “place the character of Jesus in its true and high light, as no imposter himself”, but that he was not with Jesus “in all his doctrines”, Jefferson described many passages as “so much untruth, charlatanism and imposture”. He was merely defending what the 1st Amendment was saying and that is crystal clear in everything you posted related to the issue. My children both absolutely love the lessons. Here’s a bit more about how the founders felt about religious expression in public life, and since it’s on topic. On what basis would we choose one flavor of Christianity as the state-sanctioned/approved one? I say these are good men who are trying to do the right who just can’t get over their own cultural barriers. I’m just talking about teaching Christianity in a general sense, much like Jefferson did at the U of V. Christianity taught by a variety of people of different denominations should their quality as teachers result in such a gathering. One needn’t promote it to teach it. Atheists? You’re either a hypocrite or an idiot – which is it? “Why did your god discontinue that practice?”, “Why did your team lose, and continue to lose?”. As to minorities within minorities, it is you that finds yourself in such a small group. Way to “read between the lines” Dan. As a consequence, at least half of adults outright embrace creationism and reject evolution. Should Religion Be Taught in Schools? Since you are a Christian and you happen to believe in God, you necessarily and unavoidably and inevitably believe in Allah. You accuse ME of name calling when your constant reference to people of faith is one level or another of complete condescension? For what it’s worth. Your whole post says nothing, and just shows how full of hot air you seem to be. We do, for we do not fear the truth. Oh really? I never suggested particular religions be taught. Yes, but not in the ways you might think. @marshalart, It isn’t even my job to do so and I never claimed it is. In 1970, a little fewer than 5 percent of the U.S. population was foreign born. Beyond all of which, our schools are overloaded with book-learning already, there’s just little time for a topic like this. The Majority religious opinion? So you spent a lot of time for nothing with your lengthy posting about a great guy with some flawed thinking. Rather, it is simply the general discussion of the existence of a Supreme Being, which would have to include all the arguments and evidence for and against. You are wrong in your defense of homosexual behaviors BECAUSE what Scripture says about that and marriage and human sexuality is NOT ambiguous, mysterious or subject to varied interpretations of the type YOU wish were possible. Not so problematic as you want it to be. Every year the letters come home from school asking parents permission and give the choice. John Barron, If anyone were too put evidence in front of you the list would go on, the same vice versa. Grade school level used the Bible to teach reading and spelling, using religious words, stories and concepts to that end. Yet, there has been nothing to fill the void and the consequences only worsen. I don’t think you’re thinking through the problems of this suggestion, even if ideally you think it’s a good idea. How? If we were to simply do that, it would be of great value as it, like so much that should be regarding how our kids are taught, leads to greater understanding of what is most likely true to whatever extent we are capable. In Jefferson’s March 4, 1805, Drafts of Address of Second Inaugural he stated: “ In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I don’t need to consider exceptions for a point to stand as valid. For example, he invoked the notion of divine justice in 1782 in his opposition to slavery,[33] and invoked divine Providence in his second inaugural address.[34]. 3) Feel free to test my courage with your “objective means and ways. Because whiny atheists complained and spineless judges and politicians acquiesced. Or STD’S! Every high school and college graduate in America should, I think, have some familiarity with statistics, economics and a foreign language such as Spanish. Too many parents telling them they are awesome and to not listen to anyone who says otherwise. Now your acting like Dan. Putting a focus on religion in schools is a direct violation of these laws. They provide context. All of which places me comfortably in the anabaptist tradition. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: Pay your taxes and import duties, and give respect and honor to all to whom it is due. Religion is allowed in schools. I have no idea what you’re talking about, John. Should Religion Be Taught in Schools? What they shouldn't teach is faith. If so, what is it? When you come in here so bold and condescending, you must back up your attitude with strong argument and evidence. If it comes to a democratic vote, your type of believer won’t be the one leading the class or determining the curriculum. Where in that do you find “ONE version of ONE religion”? Thus, we’ve not implemented any such class.” But what you fail to keep in mind, or choose to ignore, is that religion is already taught in schools of higher learning of all sorts (as I said, my daughter took a course in world religions at Mizzou) without anyone’s grade being contingent upon adhering to any religion whatsoever. You READ Greek and Hebrew grammar, etc, or you read about it from others? “Are you seriously going to blame your pathetic lot in life on me?”. The only real problem comes in as a result of irrational and, quite frankly, superstitious fears of non-believers and their warped perceptions of the motivations and intentions of believers. I never said anyone of your faith tradition. It is indisputable except to revisionists. 2) I named two venues not one. If you can’t deal with the issue of a post, why do you even show up? You had better be quiet about it or she’d paddle you. Im not even necessarily argying that it should take place. It is deceitful to presume that teaching Christianity is equal to promoting it. My children aren't baptised and their religion lessons in class are the only exposure to religion they have. What “fight” did we lose a long time ago? You can’t have it both ways, John, at least I can’t see how you can. Because we believe in religious liberty, we are open to others seeking to understand God as best they can. “Flacid and unintellectual”? The article “Getting Religion Right in Public School” written by Charles C. Haynes states, “Despite the recent increase in study about religion in schools, many Americans still have little or no knowledge about religions other than … The answer is in your question (as well as the full context whence you pulled that quote)…Christianity played a role in the founding that those other religions didn’t. Yes, but not in the ways you might think. You haven’t given any reason that religion shouldn’t be taught, but simply made assertions that I exposed as the inanities they are. There’s no need to be scared. 2 SPECIFIC ISSUES & QUESTIONS For what it’s worth. Dan. How and why would you choose one faith tradition’s version of “God” to talk about? But I think I understand that you recognize that the truest interpretation of Scripture is the same as what I follow. There is a difference between having classes about world religions (ie, one in which we learn that the Christian bible has two divisions – OT, NT – is made up of 66 books – except for those traditions that have more, and believe X, Y and Z… that Christians are made up of Protestants and Catholics, etc, etc… the facts surrounding Christianity, and Judaism, and Islam, etc) and one where religion is taught, as in promoted – “here’s the Christian evangelical teachings, it’s the one that makes most sense and is accepted by most “real” Christians…”. What do you have to say about the Epicurus triangle (if you believe in the 3 things)? School is a place for attaining knowledge, not a battle ground for people to prove the superiority of their religion – which will eventually happen, if religion is taught in schools. It does not. By doing so, there is no threat to issues of religious liberty. Yes, in the simplest of terms. We send our children to school to learn their ABCs not religion...that is what Sunday school and Church is for..If you want your child to have these sort of classes maybe you should consider sending them to a private religious school. I guess you don’t seem to understand that your “truth” is not as widely accepted as you may think. Bring it. Religious liberty is too valuable to promote one flavor at the state level. In theory, since the Supreme Court explained that we are to “teach not preach” and “educate not indoctrinate,” the analysis could be simple. “Would your jesus comment on my panties?”. We do NOT believe God and/or Scripture has failed. Nonsense. Wouldn’t your god be taking care of this problem on his own? There has been much publicity in recent years highlighting how ignorant U.S. citizens are about religion. Political secularists have thus far been successful in preventing religion from crossing the threshold of our public schools. We get one more chance to disprove your presupposition from the positive, without any evidence at all? Here are the basics of one of my favorite political/social philosophers, Thomas Jefferson, who had some hard fights, with christian zealots while in office and after: He makes 3 specific points that would seem to entirely undermine your position John, Can you find them? Clearly neither. The unbeliever is simply afraid of a majority of people coming to adjust their views of morality…, … behaviors a non-believer might choose to enjoy, such as pornography…. Don’t think I said that, either. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”[58], “ May it [the French Revolution] be to the world, what I believe it will be, (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all), the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. Crystal Jones is a senior journalist and editor at the Bundaberg NewsMail. Can’t say the same for you based on three statements above that are total misinterpretations of my position. [50], Jefferson also denied the divine inspiration of the Book of Revelation, describing it to Alexander Smyth in 1825 as “merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams”. Following the 1800 campaign, Jefferson became more reluctant to have his religious opinions discussed in public. WE are losing, you freakin’ idiot! What we can’t do is give one religion special attention over the other or promote a particular religious text as a singular truth. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. In fact Ive said it explicitly more than once. The thing is, fellas, you can’t prove a negative. (Probably not given your incredibly poor reasoning skills), “Is the faith traditions of the Native peoples who were here when Europeans started coming not count as a connection?”. Conceding that, because no one is suggesting establishing anything more than a fearless search for truth, you have yet to provide any reason why religion should not be taught about in public schools. On what basis? Do you ever, like, read history, or just isolate those parts that can be used to appear to support your preferred beliefs? But absolutely feel free to brain wash “your” kids at a church of your choosing or at home. That is to say, restrictions or regulations on certain behaviors would likely interfere with behaviors a non-believer might choose to enjoy, such as pornography for example. Or the way you John, interpret the bible? Indeed, even by your desperate and twisted misuse of the Chapter, our current government does indeed allow for replacing elected officials. If you’re referring to the religion in the schools thing, see the above where I talk about whiny atheists and spineless judges and politicians. Similarly, in the Muslim World the emergence of formal education was driven by religious purposes. But if I have no truth, then there is still no problem by having the existence of God discussed in school. In 1803 Jefferson composed a “Syllabus of an Estimate of the Merit of the Doctrines of Jesus” of the comparative merits of Christianity, after having read the pamphlet “Socrates and Jesus Compared” by the Materialist philosopher Dr. Joseph Priestley. So, I’m not sure what you think I’ve “interpreted…” Feel free to tell me, if it matters. ( Log Out /  The idea of you teaching at all is appalling. Aren’t you promised a paradise in heaven for just accepting Christ? Those questions might make such a course unfeasible, but they don’t answer why religion shouldn’t be taught. Im not saying that necause u used to be something…. One is legal and I have no problem with. Certainly not every christian except Dan. Wow Nash. YOU SAID: Keep teaching religion at our public schools. The Presbyterian, Baptist and Methodist churches did not receive tax support. Its goal was complete separation of church and state; it declared the opinions of men to be beyond the jurisdiction of the civil magistrate. SEE THE FINALISTS AND VOTE. There’s value in understanding the religious beliefs of those that founded the nation in which the students live. There is absolutely no place for religion in public schools. They – and religious liberty types, like the traditional baptists and anabaptists – oppose teachers teaching “God” for reasons of religious liberty, not for reasons of hedonism. I wonder how it actually took place in the past. can you come up with an explanation for those? “Again, where? In fact, Creationism is believed by 42% of Americans, according to a survey done by the Washington Post (McCoy). I have therefore undertaken, on no occasion, to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them, as the constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of state or church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies. Not surprisingly, you miss the point. News If you wish to show how any of my previous comments indicate bigotry, I’m up for a laugh. That serves those who believe in God. THAT would be prohibited simply because it’s gibberish, not unConstitutional. How we do it comes later and if at that point no consensus arises, then we don’t do it. If my belief of what is true is not true, I would have no trouble with being convinced of that through discussions presenting facts and evidence. Am I mistaken? Why did your god discontinue that practice? Schools are about educating our future generations not railroading them into a particular following. You know…with grace and humility. You’ve exposed yourselves for the closed-minded bigots you are and people are rightly writing you all off as irrelevant and pitiable. So, as I asked repeatedly of Nash, I again ask of you: Why shouldn’t religion be taught in public schools? As for your kids, I truly hope and pray they have indeed turned out well, but I wouldn’t wager on it based on your report, considering your difficulty in dealing with reality. Maybe one with a more christian totalitarian bent? News I’ll try to use only small words this time. The only gibberish, of any age, with which I come into contact is pretty much just yours and that of people like you. Why? Seek help. The stereotypical unifying themes of anabaptism are…, * Radicalism (ie, trying to live lives like the early church, returning to the roots (radical) of the Christian church – ie, taking Jesus and the early church’s teachings pretty literally) – Kingdom of God living, communal living Are teachers advising students on the “right” answer? Now go back, read the words I actually used, and dont interpret my comment the same way you interpret the bible. Again, why didn’t the Constitution endorse through amendment the christian ideologies of the day? Nothing about the suggestion has anything to do with forcing, by government fiat, a set of beliefs on anyone. [42], Jefferson also publicly affirmed “acknowledging and adoring an overruling providence” by the nation in his First Inaugural Address[43] and in his Second Inaugural Address expressed his need of “the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our fathers, as Israel of old”, and thus asked the nation “to join in supplications” with him to God. Where’s the down side to this? 3. (1972.) This will help teach kids about acceptance and other cultures. “So you and the majority of the founders lost this fight a long time ago. Oh, so NOW what Jefferson did and believed doesn’t matter. At a guess, that’s probably what David is trying to say. That’s so sad. Yet, when a culture leans toward one view, as it once did regarding, say, promiscuous girls being less than ideal for bringing home to Momma, it influences the overall sense of morality and it becomes the accepted sense. She has worked extensively in regional Queensland news since 2007 and has tackled big issues including the extensive abuse in the aged care industry. Try paying attention. Your religion is an idea. So you’d like to believe. We baptists and anabaptists have a long history of warning against going down that road. Did you go the Dan Trabue School of Analogy? In this same way, that is all Jefferson had ever had been saying with regards to “separation of church and state”. So once again we come to the question of why not? So, it appears that YOU recognize the problem of a loss of religious liberty when it’s your loss being discussed. No one here, for example, suggests that there should be religious litmus tests for elected anyone. Taught by Theologians? The best part about the links I’ve provided, is that they provide, in context, the words of the founders based on their actual writings. But I don’t think the issue should be avoided in the fashion it is currently. 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